Comments on: Ubuntu Edge: Too Ambitious ?

By: Timothy Mutuma

Timothy Mutuma — Sun, 01 Sep 2013 11:41:09 +0000

I wish Ubuntu Edge well, & who knows, they may still come up with the phone by May 2014. Back to Jolla, the adjustments are very much welcome(I can’t wait for my pre-order to materialise). In closing, Ubuntu Edge have got pretty good ideas up their sleeve, Jolla can pick some of them for future development. Jolla: We are #Unlike!

By: c.la

c.la — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 09:49:53 +0000

I might agree that Lumia 920 is older hardware but my point is that “non techie” people see two phone on a store shelf that have similar spec and mostly go for the cheaper one.

I did the 100€ preorder but sorry to tell you that in the end the phone will cost 399€ — before preordering i explicitly asked jolla customer care about it and they replied stating that the second credit charge will be of 299€, for a total cost of 399.

I stand that 399 is high for a dual core lte phone, especially considering that by xmas time there will be more phones on the market with similar spec.
Please note that on the chinese market just came out the Xiaomi Hongmi, an 1,5Ghz A7 quad core with fullhd display, 1GB ram and dual sim for 799CNY, about 99 euro. it’s not lte (is hspa) but the price point is extremely tempting.
(sadly for jolla) hardware prices are dropping fast.

As I wrote, IMHO 399 should be the price for jolla + hwkb. 349€ otherwise.

By: Larswad

Larswad — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 07:41:18 +0000

I didn’t know that, but glad to hear. It was in a way also to expect that they would have a replaceable one, because we know that the Jolla developers THINK in contrast to the other phone/tablet hardware and software companies.

By: Larswad

Larswad — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 07:36:50 +0000

Yes, agree completely. So many things just works too poorly in android, I have a Asus TF700T pad and just it sucks so badly. I don’t think its Asus fault, they are a very good hardware developer. Sure they have some OEM crap in there, but disabling that and android still works very poorly.
I can’t believe how some people think android is a working alternative to the iEvil stuff. They must be totally blind.

* lagging, no matter how speedy device and stripped down from OEM apps, it always ends up lagging anyway.
* The touch UI for editing is so badly conceived that I simply don’t trust it with webforms at all. How small fingers do you need to move around those markers? Man, it’s just so flawed.
* Apps are very frequently buggy, bloated and inefficient. They crash and behave unexpectedly. Java attracts substandard developers, its a fact.
* https:// dowloading fails completely on some sites, regardless of browser (they are probably using the same backend). Has been like that forever and newest android version is no different. The general support on web pages is poor, same for all browsers. I had to uninstall chrome completely because it had background processes that lagged the device so badly it could hardly be used.

I will NEVER look for another android device again.
I am very glad Jolla didn’t opt for a dual boot solution, it would have ruined their handset.

By: mkl

mkl — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 06:13:41 +0000

It’s about time that people realize that a smartphone is just a small computer with a GSM “card” (that’s how these things were called back in the days). Maybe the Ubuntu-on-a-phone thing will wake some of them up. I want to do everything I can do with my laptop, modulo size, connectors, etc of course. ssh -X anyone? Backups with rsync? And even on the N900 with it’s tiny thumb-operated keyboard, vim in a terminal is better suited for note taking than the text editor thingy that comes preinstalled. I remember logging in to my Openmoko with ssh for the first time. That was a magical moment. It was MY phone! So please Jolla, make a phone that truly belongs to me and we will become friends forever.

By: iberlynx

iberlynx — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 01:51:27 +0000

I keep praying for Jolla to allow me to do the same that ubuntu promisses, dock it and use a real screen and keyboard, changing it’s appearence to a KDE desktop, so it becomes my computer everywhere!

By: Lucas Camargo

Lucas Camargo — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 00:52:14 +0000

I agree. If I had the money, as I will in a couple of months or so, I would have bought it without even blinking.

By: Bern

Bern — Tue, 20 Aug 2013 07:59:45 +0000

exactly. they only do it for a more polished look which is a sin and does not outweigh the downsides. then you should be able the open the baby up without voiding warranty.

By: JollaTides

JollaTides — Mon, 19 Aug 2013 21:18:22 +0000

@ c.la – 2 points to make on that:

1/ Lumia 920 has been superseded by lumia 925 and lumia 1020 so they have reduced the price greatly because of this. You have to compare launch price for an accurate comparison and the Lumia 920 cost 200 Euros more than Jolla handset upon release @599 Euros http://www.zdnet.com/uk/-7000004909/

2/ If you were lucky enough to be in a country where the 100 Euro preorder was available, the Jolla handset will only cost 299 Euros which is an even bigger discount.

Not yet found that information – sorry – leaks are hard to find in this very solid boat!

By: c.la

c.la — Mon, 19 Aug 2013 20:36:46 +0000

well, honestly at the moment in my opinion Jolla price is a bit high — nokia is dropping prices on their dual core wp8 phones and now they sell at 350 euro, I saw an heavily discounted lumia 9xx (don’t remember the model, maybe a 920) at 299€ on a shop about three weeks ago — considering that when Jolla will ship prices will have dropped further.

A Jolla should sell at no more than 349, in my opinion (considering the price of competitors phones when it will ship) the right price is at 249€. I gave trust to them, let’s see the final specs anyway.

By the way, did you get a chance to grab more information regarding the alarm sounding if the phone is turned off? Reference: http://jollatides.com/2013/05/24/have-you-pre-ordered-vote-to-be-heard/comment-page-1/#comment-4519

thank you