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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.jollatides.com/2014/07/05/perfect-offline-map-solution-for-jolla/#comment-13439</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2014 18:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If here maps can be purchased for Android, can I buy the full app for Jolla?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If here maps can be purchased for Android, can I buy the full app for Jolla?</p>
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		<title>By: JollaTides</title>
		<link>http://www.jollatides.com/2014/07/05/perfect-offline-map-solution-for-jolla/#comment-12823</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JollaTides]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2014 10:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@silta Thanks for the feedback!  We are now currently testing HERE maps/drive for Jolla which although can be slightly laggy (mainly on startup) seem to have good features and all the power of HERE with free offline maps: http://www.jollatides.com/2014/10/05/fresh-off-the-press-here-mapsdrive-beta-android-port-for-jolla/  Maybe a comparison is in order ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@silta Thanks for the feedback!  We are now currently testing HERE maps/drive for Jolla which although can be slightly laggy (mainly on startup) seem to have good features and all the power of HERE with free offline maps: <a href="http://www.jollatides.com/2014/10/05/fresh-off-the-press-here-mapsdrive-beta-android-port-for-jolla/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jollatides.com/2014/10/05/fresh-off-the-press-here-mapsdrive-beta-android-port-for-jolla/</a>  Maybe a comparison is in order ?</p>
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		<title>By: silta</title>
		<link>http://www.jollatides.com/2014/07/05/perfect-offline-map-solution-for-jolla/#comment-12816</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[silta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2014 10:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I tested MapFactor this summer in Germany, Switzerland and France with free OSM maps in an Androidphone by car.
Until I arrived the Cévennes. Here I should drive a mountain hiking path. The path was not possible for Mountainbikers.
You can check it, if you try to go from Switzerland to Le Salzet, 30450 Malons-Et-Elze.
The village is reachable by car only from North!
This is a killing bug.
Apart from that one bad event it takes a good job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tested MapFactor this summer in Germany, Switzerland and France with free OSM maps in an Androidphone by car.<br />
Until I arrived the Cévennes. Here I should drive a mountain hiking path. The path was not possible for Mountainbikers.<br />
You can check it, if you try to go from Switzerland to Le Salzet, 30450 Malons-Et-Elze.<br />
The village is reachable by car only from North!<br />
This is a killing bug.<br />
Apart from that one bad event it takes a good job.</p>
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		<title>By: HERE Offline Maps on Jolla (Android App) &#124; Jolla Users Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.jollatides.com/2014/07/05/perfect-offline-map-solution-for-jolla/#comment-12718</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HERE Offline Maps on Jolla (Android App) &#124; Jolla Users Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2014 15:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] and JollaTides have been talking about Android solutions to this, and they both have effective [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] and JollaTides have been talking about Android solutions to this, and they both have effective [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: TJT</title>
		<link>http://www.jollatides.com/2014/07/05/perfect-offline-map-solution-for-jolla/#comment-11455</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TJT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2014 10:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can download it from Blackmart http://www.blackmart.us/
Its an alternative app store to Google Play Store, where the users upload the apk&#039;s themself!
No need for an account on Blackmart.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can download it from Blackmart <a href="http://www.blackmart.us/" rel="nofollow">http://www.blackmart.us/</a><br />
Its an alternative app store to Google Play Store, where the users upload the apk&#8217;s themself!<br />
No need for an account on Blackmart.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
		<link>http://www.jollatides.com/2014/07/05/perfect-offline-map-solution-for-jolla/#comment-10795</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2014 11:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[be-on-road requires 12 permissions, including dangerous ones like:

• read contact data
    Allows an application to read all of the contact (address) data stored on your phone. Malicious applications can use this to send your data to other people.


• read phone state and identity
    Allows the application to access the phone features of the device. An application with this permission can determine the phone number and serial number of this phone, whether a call is active, the number that call is connected to, ect.

...which other navigation apps such as Osmand do not require.  
I do not know what be-on-road does with this data, but every app maker I have contacted about this has some supposed justification why they need it for their app&#039;s features to work.  On the other hand we know that many apps sell this data on.  It&#039;s their business model.  


I do not know how Jolla handles these permissions.  
(and frankly I would like to know, because privacy and security are one of the key attractions for me of a non-android, non-ios, non-WP OS.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>be-on-road requires 12 permissions, including dangerous ones like:</p>
<p>• read contact data<br />
    Allows an application to read all of the contact (address) data stored on your phone. Malicious applications can use this to send your data to other people.</p>
<p>• read phone state and identity<br />
    Allows the application to access the phone features of the device. An application with this permission can determine the phone number and serial number of this phone, whether a call is active, the number that call is connected to, ect.</p>
<p>&#8230;which other navigation apps such as Osmand do not require.<br />
I do not know what be-on-road does with this data, but every app maker I have contacted about this has some supposed justification why they need it for their app&#8217;s features to work.  On the other hand we know that many apps sell this data on.  It&#8217;s their business model.  </p>
<p>I do not know how Jolla handles these permissions.<br />
(and frankly I would like to know, because privacy and security are one of the key attractions for me of a non-android, non-ios, non-WP OS.)</p>
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		<title>By: Walter</title>
		<link>http://www.jollatides.com/2014/07/05/perfect-offline-map-solution-for-jolla/#comment-10565</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2014 06:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am using be-on-road (with Openstreetmaps) http://www.beonroad.com/
nice layout and works fine!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am using be-on-road (with Openstreetmaps) <a href="http://www.beonroad.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.beonroad.com/</a><br />
nice layout and works fine!</p>
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		<title>By: JollaTides</title>
		<link>http://www.jollatides.com/2014/07/05/perfect-offline-map-solution-for-jolla/#comment-9681</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JollaTides]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2014 15:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[3 points:

1/  I tried/used OSmand before I even owned my Jolla - not sure why you assume I don&#039;t know it exists?  Maybe they&#039;ve updated it since then because I found the UI very unintuitive back then.

2/ Mapfactor also uses Openstreetmaps if you actually read the article and it&#039;s free too.

3/ The whole point of the article was presenting a new map app I discovered and thought worked well on Jolla... it&#039;s only an opinion and actually it was more of a question as I was more interested to see if other people had tried it (in their country) and what they thought of it.  Unfortunately I don&#039;t have so much time to make an in depth comparison.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3 points:</p>
<p>1/  I tried/used OSmand before I even owned my Jolla &#8211; not sure why you assume I don&#8217;t know it exists?  Maybe they&#8217;ve updated it since then because I found the UI very unintuitive back then.</p>
<p>2/ Mapfactor also uses Openstreetmaps if you actually read the article and it&#8217;s free too.</p>
<p>3/ The whole point of the article was presenting a new map app I discovered and thought worked well on Jolla&#8230; it&#8217;s only an opinion and actually it was more of a question as I was more interested to see if other people had tried it (in their country) and what they thought of it.  Unfortunately I don&#8217;t have so much time to make an in depth comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: Jukka</title>
		<link>http://www.jollatides.com/2014/07/05/perfect-offline-map-solution-for-jolla/#comment-9679</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jukka]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2014 15:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When post these kind of suggestions for the best Maps/Navigation options in #Jolla, you should atleast try to list the pros/cons of your prefered solution to other existing ones. Im this article you are just promoting Mapfactor without giving any explanations on why is it better than e.g. OsmAnd. The Mapfactor might be best for you, but don&#039;t asume that the rest of us agree. I find the OsmAnd much better, cause it is based on OpenStreetMaps, it&#039;s free, the UI is intuitive, and it has all the features that the navigation app (Nokia Drive and Maps) in my old #N9 had. I don&#039;t believe that your only choice for native @Here Maps alternative is any better than OsmAnd. You have given no reasons why anyone should start using Mapfactor. Only that you personally happen to lile it. It is also indicative that you didn&#039;t even know OsmAnd exists, so it&#039;s advisable that you do some research on the topics that you write about. 

Cheers for now, and please don&#039;t get upset for some comstructive critisism ;)
-jukka]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When post these kind of suggestions for the best Maps/Navigation options in #Jolla, you should atleast try to list the pros/cons of your prefered solution to other existing ones. Im this article you are just promoting Mapfactor without giving any explanations on why is it better than e.g. OsmAnd. The Mapfactor might be best for you, but don&#8217;t asume that the rest of us agree. I find the OsmAnd much better, cause it is based on OpenStreetMaps, it&#8217;s free, the UI is intuitive, and it has all the features that the navigation app (Nokia Drive and Maps) in my old #N9 had. I don&#8217;t believe that your only choice for native @Here Maps alternative is any better than OsmAnd. You have given no reasons why anyone should start using Mapfactor. Only that you personally happen to lile it. It is also indicative that you didn&#8217;t even know OsmAnd exists, so it&#8217;s advisable that you do some research on the topics that you write about. </p>
<p>Cheers for now, and please don&#8217;t get upset for some comstructive critisism ;)<br />
-jukka</p>
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		<title>By: JollaTides</title>
		<link>http://www.jollatides.com/2014/07/05/perfect-offline-map-solution-for-jolla/#comment-9607</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JollaTides]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2014 10:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ walter

I had the N8 as well and it was a great phone with camera ahead of its time! Unfortunately after time I started getting the dreaded &#039;low memory&#039; message and the phone would freeze up occasionally.  Also the lack of some must have apps after development on Symbian ceased lead me to Jolla.

Jolla has a derivative of &#039;HERE&#039; maps out of the box and while not as fully featured as the Nokia versions, it&#039;s quite useful.  It provides written directions (good for walking) and maps (but not offline).

For a transport app, I&#039;m sure there are a multitude of android apps available and also there are already some native apps appearing in the Jolla store.

Of course the Jolla phone has a user replaceable battery too which I favour over the N8&#039;s locked approach.

Good luck with finding a replacement!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ walter</p>
<p>I had the N8 as well and it was a great phone with camera ahead of its time! Unfortunately after time I started getting the dreaded &#8216;low memory&#8217; message and the phone would freeze up occasionally.  Also the lack of some must have apps after development on Symbian ceased lead me to Jolla.</p>
<p>Jolla has a derivative of &#8216;HERE&#8217; maps out of the box and while not as fully featured as the Nokia versions, it&#8217;s quite useful.  It provides written directions (good for walking) and maps (but not offline).</p>
<p>For a transport app, I&#8217;m sure there are a multitude of android apps available and also there are already some native apps appearing in the Jolla store.</p>
<p>Of course the Jolla phone has a user replaceable battery too which I favour over the N8&#8217;s locked approach.</p>
<p>Good luck with finding a replacement!</p>
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