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JollaTides

I just wondered who 'would be the first' to test the forum and post in this thread from their Jolla phone ?

We have set up some forum optimisations for mobile and can confirm that both Android/IOS work very nice with a custom template which makes reading/writing very easy.

Of course I'm yet to see what the forum looks like on the Sailfish native browser and whether it renders the 'Full Site' or the 'Mobile Version'.

So it would be nice to maybe post a screenshot here of how the forum looks in the native Sailfish browser or just make a reply in this thread if any new Jolla owners are out there! :-D

Lupin

Well, I am writing this using my Jolla phone. I do not know how to take screemshots
with this, so that will have to wait. I cold take a picture with N900 or N9, but its too much
hashle for now.
Thr browser works, but I would like to use it horizontally too. Also I have hard time in cotrectinh typos in this short post.

JollaTides

That's great thanks Lupin and welcome!

I think there is a way to take screenshots - I'll find out and post here when I get an answer. ;-)

BTW if you want a better viewing experience, try downloading one of the Android browsers and you should find the site more optimised in mobile format. ;-)

Lupin · Post edited by Lupin at 2013-11-29 11:36:30

Hello again. I switched to a desktop. I have not used the jPhone much yet, after all I have had it only for a short while as I acquired it on Wednesday little after 20:00. I have N900 and N9 also. The latter is for work and the former former is for pleasure. jPhone is more like a hobby for me. I plan to write something small with QML. A great excuse for refreshing my C++. I'm a developer, but last 10 years have worked only with enterprise back-end software.

IMHO jPhone works pretty well as far as features have been implemented. What is missing and causes some grief is features which are not implemented yet.

Jolla has said that the software (sailfish) is still beta, so I do not worry too much. At least jPhone has cut&paste. This is something some other phones from bigger companies did not have when they came to market.

JollaTides

@Lupin

Thanks for your feedback - I'm sure Jolla are on the case with implementing those 'missing features'.

In the meantime, it might be helpful to list the features you feel missing in a thread @CoolHuh made a few days ago: /forums/discussion/59/the-really-important-future-additionsimprovements#Item_11

KnuX

Lupin, could you or some lucky Jolla owners post some system info?
"dmesg", "find /", "ps aux", "rpm -qa" would be very enlightening.

For instance, I don't believe any of us knows yet which Qualcomm SoC made it in, after all. Are we getting Krait 300, 400? ...

Lupin

I have not activated development mode yet. I have been a bit hesitant as this is my only jPhone (I have two more coming, hopefully next month). I have not found terminal yet. Either I have to activate the development mode or I need to install software from Jolla store. I intend to look into this beast more closely during this coming weekend.

By the way, I was able to synchronize my calendar and contacts from my N900 via blue-tooth. Have to mess around more. My N9 has some contacts and calendars N900 did not have, so I'll try to export them to jPhone too. Maybe I'll dig up a Symbian monster somewhere and try with it too. There should be one in working order in my household.

KnuX

Lupin said:
I have not activated development mode yet. I have been a bit hesitant as this is my only jPhone (I have two more coming, hopefully next month). I have not found terminal yet. Either I have to activate the development mode or I need to install software from Jolla store. I intend to look into this beast more closely during this coming weekend.

Supposedly it is there. If you enable developer mode, it shows up. I don't think that there are any problematic side effects from using developer mode on your daily phone, but yeah I can understand you wanting to be careful :)

Lupin · Post edited by Lupin at 2013-11-29 17:41:58

There usually are now side effects. After all, my N900 and N9 both have it and quite frankly, N900 cannot be used to the fullest without it as the manufacturer forgot to include quite a few things, e.g. the ability to change most settings.

Just looked in to the Jolla store, no terminal there, or maybe I am just too thick. Well, I will report back sometime during this weekend.

JollaTides

@Lupin

With regards taking a screenshot, you need dev mode enabled and lipstick-qt-tools installed. ;-)

Lupin

Finally got developer mode activated. I checked Murobbs and TMO (I'm a user of the latter as I have N900) and noticed that someone reported success after he had returned phone to factory settings.

So I did it too. And after initial setup I activated developer mode with success. I noticed that the information KnuX asked can be found from TMO. I'll post links when i tumble on those again.

technicus

@Lupin

Nice to hear that :)
Can you tell me he phone supports a 64GB SD card and the second question is what kind of headset supports the phone?

KnuX

If anyone else is interested, I found what I was asking for:
http://losca.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/jolla-launch-party.html

It seems we got the MSM8930 which is a Snapdragon 400 part:
http://www.qualcomm.com/snapdragon/processors/800-600-400-200/specs

Basically compared to the Galaxy S4, for instance, the cpu cores are the same (but only two), and the gpu is a lower spec part too, but it has integrated modem, so with the huge battery having a nice battery life should be easy.

Lupin

technicus said:
@Lupin

Nice to hear that :)
Can you tell me he phone supports a 64GB SD card and the second question is what kind of headset supports the phone?

Just in case you have not noticed this:

/forums/discussion/69/max-micro-sd-card-capacity#Item_5

technicus

I am happy as I could be :D

andreibechet

A bit off topic but I am very curious: any "review" on the battery life?

technicus · Post edited by technicus at 2013-12-03 22:47:37

yes. I read something about max. 1 day, if you have turned off wlan, gps and so on, otherwise max. 7-8 hrs.

so i guess it's a bug of the beta version

Edit:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1391432&highlight=browser#post1391432

JollaTides

Yes there has been a guy called Janne running quite a few tests and found the GPS (if always on) caused big drain issues. Jolla are definitely aware and no doubt working on a fix.

Hopefully they'll have worked something out in time for receiving our Jolla's. :)
:-)

technicus · Post edited by technicus at 2013-12-04 08:46:35

Or you always need your batterycharger on your side ;)

JollaTides

technicus said:
Or you always need you batterycharger on your side ;)

That kind of takes the 'mobile' out of the mobile phone! :P

Just to confirm it sounds as though without GPS switched on, users are getting around a days usage and Jolla on the case to improve this. Here's a confirmation from Stefano Mosconi:

@MattiErvasti we still are doing lots of work on that front. First update will come soon to your phone ;) // @vgrade
— Stefano Mosconi (@zzste)
December 2, 2013

Lupin

Thanks for the tip.

I have tried to enable developer mode, at least ten times with no success. Maybe my phone just does not want me to activate it. When I select "activate developer mode" it shows me some terms and warnings etc. and I need to a accept it. When I accept, the white progress bar goes from left to right and then nothing happens and the light from "developer mode" shuts down. And I have tried to reboot it right after the activation to no avail.

The phone's operating system version is 1.0.0.5(Kaajanlampi). Interesting, is Jolla naming releases after small Finnish puddles?

There seems to be some information about this in Finnish on murobbs, I'll go and check it out. http://murobbs.plaza.fi/taskumuro-puhelimet-taulutietokoneet-ja-muut-mobiililaitteet/1067143-jollan-puhelimen-ja-sailfish-kayttojarjestelman-kayttokokemukset.html

andreibechet

Thank you guys for the posts about battery. I was looking for a second opinion from Lupin maybe :P

JollaTides

Lupin said:

The phone's operating system version is 1.0.0.5(Kaajanlampi). Interesting, is Jolla naming releases after small Finnish puddles?

Yes Jolla have confirmed that releases will be named after Finnish Lakes or 'puddles'. :P

andreibechet

Good ... than they have a lot of them left :)

Lupin

andreibechet said:
Thank you guys for the posts about battery. I was looking for a second opinion from Lupin maybe :P

I get about one day (24 hours) for all this fiddling with it. Actually to me it seems that regardless of what I do, it lasts one day.

I remember reading somewhere that the android compatibility layer is responsible for much of the battery drainage. I have not checked this, but I might as well check it as I do not need android software at the moment. I have a network always connected (wifi or usually 3g), GPS is not activated.

JollaTides

@Lupin

That's great to hear thanks Lupin and I gather Jolla intend improving this with future updates, but not bad for beta software all the same. :-)

Lupin

First sailfish update came to me today. I do not know whats new, have to try to find out. I returned my phone to factory settings again earlier this evening because I wanted to install some native applications from the store. I will return when I found out more.

andreibechet

You can find all the details here: /2013/12/09/sailfish-first-software-update-091213/

technicus

And you can find it also here:

/forums/discussion/83/official-sailfish-updates

JollaTides

Just thought I'd get all bases covered! :-D

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